GnashBug

There's a bug with the gnash package. It doesn't play youtube videos. It's a recognized bug in ubuntu hardy heron: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnash/+bug/215620 but I figured it probably won't get much attention because most ubuntu users will install flash rather than gnash. It's not, strictly speaking, a gNewSense bug so I didn't report it in bugs.gnewsense.org but I thought since this might be a more important issue for gnewsense users than with ubuntu users that someone on the forum might be interested. I added my comment to the ubuntu bug, what else could we do to expedite this?

It's not really a bug. Youtube "updated" with a requirement for Flash 9. This hits Gnash since it emulates up to Flash 7/8 (it's most of the way there anyway).

It's pretty pointless putting in bug reports to gNewSense or Ubuntu, better to go over to the Gnash webpages and see what they're upto.

http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash

Is it true?, well that's strange becasue i do can see YouTube videos with Gnash.
Not sure about this bug, but seems that isn't well documented. Epiphany works fine with the Mozilla Plugin. I believe that some dependencies are missing and that causes the problem. It works fine and smooth. :)

According to one of the comments on the ubuntu bug report the person had gnash working with youtube videos with a debian sid installation, but couldn't get it working with his ubuntu installation.

Ark74: what dependencies?

I may be guessing, i have these ones that i think do the job along with Gnash, here is the list

gnash gnash-common gnash-cygnal gnash-tools mozilla gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg libxine1-ffmpeg
Using, Epiphany 2.22.1.1 on gNewSense 2.0. All the packages from Synaptic. Please post you experiences.

Package mozilla can't install from Synaptic. There is a unresolvable dependencies.

Argh! >.< I mean to say mozilla-plugin-gnash
Any comment?

When I upgraded my home desktop to gNewSense 2.0, Gnash did not play Youtube videos. There was a graphic loaded, but they never played.

As I said above, as far as I am aware this is because of changes at Youtube. I have not tried compiling a newer version of Gnash (if one exists).

I am just now getting round to upgrading my parents computers so I will try it out here as well, though I doubt it will be any different.

(Excuse my english) Thanks Ark47, now work gnash. But before your post, I install many packages and I don't say if mozilla-plugin-gnash is only solution.

First, I install the suggested packages to gnash-common (lock Synaptic). After I install the fallow packages because they are necesary to compile gnash from source

libxml2-dev libjpeg-dev libpng12-dev libagg-dev libboost-dev libboost-thread-dev libcurl4-openssl-dev libming-dev mtasc swfmill swftools zlib1g-dev libfreetype6-dev libfontconfig1-dev

Excuse me, is Ark74.

That's great news!, dont worry about the name :), the good thing is that is working.
Cheers

I am using gNewSense 2.0 with GNU IceCat 2.0.0.13g1 with gnash plugin 0.8.2.

I also had the same problem with youtube and maybe I found out why:

http://www.mail-archive.com/gnash@gnu.org/msg01478.html

I think it's a problem related to Gnome VFS.

I downloaded and decompressed IceCat 2.0.0.12-g1 but don't know how to install it (i'm only able to run it by clicking on shell scripts "run-icecat.sh" and "icecat"). Can someone help me?

You don't need to install IceCat. You downloaded the binary form of the software, ready to be executed. Think of it like a Windows portable app.

If you prefer, you can create a deb package: http://www.google.pt/search?q=create+a+deb+package+from+binary&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.gnu.gnuzilla:en-US:unofficial&client=firefox-a

I installed gNewSense, downloaded and decompressed IceCat, and installed Gnash. All is well with Epiphany but Icecat behaves as if Gnash wasn't installed. I also couldn't set up a functioning link/icon so to start IceCat more easily. Will creating an IceCat deb package solve both problems?

I used IceCat (gNS-1.1), if you're using the binaries the system will not recognice it, you may download the source code and compile it, so the next time you install apps, they'll find IceCat as a browser.
For launching it, you will be able to find it after you finish compiling. That should work along with the mozilla-plugin-gnash in theory, haven't tried that. Good luck.:)
You may wanna open a new subject "Gnash on IceCat" so we all can follow there facts, tips, or more.

To make gnash work with IceCat, I created an hard link inside IceCats plugins folder to the gnash plugin. I have IceCat in /opt, so I used the following command: sudo ln -s /usr/lib/gnash/libgnashplugin.so /opt/icecat/plugins

Thanks to the list of packages given by Ark74 I can now see vidéos on Youtube with Gnash (using Epiphany web browser). However, I have no sound. Any idea about this issue ?

You mean no sound in YouTube or gNewSense?

I also had no sound with gnash in Epihany (no IceCat). Switched to swfdec, which works nicely with most youtube stuff. Any idea how to get sound with gnash? Have used recent versions with Debian sid without problems.

Sorry Ark74. I should have been more specific. I mean no sound in YouTube.

Oh, this happen because of the YouTube streaming. They use mp3 on their broadcast. So for "decoding" the sound, you'll need a free mp3 decoder.
I may suggest gstreamer0.10-fluendo-mp3.

I have to point that this is free software. It plays a non-free format (patented one). For that reason i would like to make aware that in some countries this could infringe patent law.
Since mp3 is patented until 2018, the use of mp3 may be dangerous and could divide the Free Software community, even using free software. So please use it smart and with a future scope.
If anyone knows another way and avoid the use of mp3 software, i'll be happy to change it.

Conclusion
The use of gstreamer0.10-fluendo-mp3 for seeing YouTube videos with Gnash is ethical, is free software, but it may be tricky and dangerous.

I may say all the free software that handle patented content, formats, etc.
Not only fluedo-mp3

@c-cube See if you have are using Alsa in Sound Playback (System > Preferences > Sound). If you not using Alsa, that's probably the source of the problem.

Ark74. I tried this gstreamer decoder and it worked perfectly well. However, I understand your point regarding free software that handle patented content, so I removed it and wont use Youtube anymore.

But now I have other questions. Should I still use OpenOffice.org ? Doesn't it handles patented format too, such as ".doc" ?

Can I read DVDs under gNewSense ? Don't the softwares reading DVDs, such as Xine, use patented content in order to read DVDs ?

@brunomiguel Thanks for the advice. As you'll see by reading my previous post, it seems that this Gnash sound issue wasn't Alsa related.

These are the difficult questions on a free operative system. Why?, because they reach the "limits" that the industry along with some governments *think* we all must be rule by. So freedom is restricted in this cases.
Even we have free software to do such things, we have to fase, software patent law, trademarks or copyright or even worse governmental laws.
Different issues that have different impact in the free software society, you can go http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/audio/audio.html? and learn about this issues more detailed.
The quick answer is yes, you can.
But then you have to ask if that infringe law in your country. And who wants to make a problem out of it. At the end, it is you who make the final decision.
Visit the GNU philosophy site and discover the correct answer for you.

Sorry i miss placed the link.
I still have some erros with the wiki lenguaje. :)

http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/audio/audio.html

Cheers

Thank you for the links and explanations Ark74. What you said also meets my reflexions and conclusions about these matters. Its all about conscious, enlightened and ethical choices.

Hi all!
Can you post if your Gnash stop playing Youtube videos?

All comments are welcome.

Hello. I'm a newbie in the Gnu/Linux world.I'm using gnewsense 2.0 with the lastest gnash version from the official repositories. It works fine, but cannot see You tube music videos. Can you help me?

Unfortunately Youtube has changed their format. Then, Gnash can't work. But you can use ytplay, see this link

http://www.andrew-wigglesworth.myzen.co.uk/computers_and_software/howto/ytplay.html

How to Gnash 0.8.3

Hi, here's a how to compile gnash-0.8.3 from source code on gNewSense 2.0.

1. Get the source code at the ftp server the latest at this moment gnash-0.8.3
2. Install the dependencies

sudo apt-get install libcurl4-openssl-dev libming-dev libming-util mtasc swftools gettext dejagnu libjpeg62-dev libgstreamer0.10-dev libagg-dev libboost-dev libboost-thread-dev swfmill libboost-serialization-dev libboost-date-time-dev libfreetype6-dev libpng12-dev libfontconfig1-dev libgtk2.0-dev libpango1.0-dev libatk1.0-dev

it won't hurt if you add doxygen libcnf-dev g77 f2c

1. extract the files and place on the desired directory
2. ./configure
3. make

(it takes around 2 hours)

1. sudo make install

This should be enough

In my case the gnash-0.8.3 file is in /opt for this reason i looked for libgnashplugin.so at /opt

find /opt -name libgnashplugin.so

then link it to IceCat3

sudo ln -s /opt/gnash-0.8.3/plugin/.libs/libgnashplugin.so /usr/local/lib/icecat-3.0-g1/plugins

And we have Gnash 0.8.3 working on IceCat3 :)
Questions, are welcome :)

Choose freedom!